Comments on: A Foretaste of my Review of Campbell’s “Deliverance of God” (2) http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/ Life through the lens of the cross / Biblical and theological reflections by Michael J. Gorman Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:38:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: clayboy » Biblical Studies Carnival XLVIII http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-949 clayboy » Biblical Studies Carnival XLVIII Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:25:19 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-949 [...] The Deliverance of God. Michael Gorman posted some previews of his contribution in four parts, one, two, three and four, with a retrospective part five after the panel. Amomng other bloggers Chris [...] [...] The Deliverance of God. Michael Gorman posted some previews of his contribution in four parts, one, two, three and four, with a retrospective part five after the panel. Amomng other bloggers Chris [...]

]]> By: MJG http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-864 MJG Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:47:10 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-864 Many thanks, Andy. Many thanks, Andy.

]]> By: Andy Rowell http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-862 Andy Rowell Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:03:26 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-862 Michael and Cross Talk readers, I have tried to collate some early reviews including this one at: http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2009/11/reviews-of-douglas-campbells-the-deliverance-of-god-an-apocalyptic-rereading-of-justification-in-pau.html Michael and Cross Talk readers, I have tried to collate some early reviews including this one at:
http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2009/11/reviews-of-douglas-campbells-the-deliverance-of-god-an-apocalyptic-rereading-of-justification-in-pau.html

]]> By: T http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-860 T Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:38:42 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-860 Yes; and "can lead" was probably too strong in any event. "Can help rationalize" is probably better. Campbell's 6 points are powerful, as is elias' story. Yes; and “can lead” was probably too strong in any event. “Can help rationalize” is probably better.

Campbell’s 6 points are powerful, as is elias’ story.

]]> By: MJG http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-859 MJG Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:29:22 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-859 Elias, Bless you for sharing this real-life story of how important all this is. It is powerful and more than a bit chilling. Paul WAS a Phinehas and left him in the dust when Jesus arrested him. T, Good to hear from you. I think substitution theory CAN lead to such errors, though I'm not sure it always does. In any event, participation should prevent many of them. Elias,

Bless you for sharing this real-life story of how important all this is. It is powerful and more than a bit chilling. Paul WAS a Phinehas and left him in the dust when Jesus arrested him.

T,

Good to hear from you. I think substitution theory CAN lead to such errors, though I’m not sure it always does. In any event, participation should prevent many of them.

]]> By: T http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-858 T Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:13:34 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-858 Yes. It seems the key is to see that Paul's "participative" understanding of Christ is of at least equal importance with his "substitutionary" view of Christ and his work. I've got my own theory of how a substitutionary view, when taken or elevated in isolation, can lead not only to condoning violence, but a host of other "anti-Christ" ethics (regarding money, for instance), but I'm curious to see Campbell's argument in full. But those are powerful points. Yes. It seems the key is to see that Paul’s “participative” understanding of Christ is of at least equal importance with his “substitutionary” view of Christ and his work. I’ve got my own theory of how a substitutionary view, when taken or elevated in isolation, can lead not only to condoning violence, but a host of other “anti-Christ” ethics (regarding money, for instance), but I’m curious to see Campbell’s argument in full. But those are powerful points.

]]> By: elias tannous http://www.michaeljgorman.net/2009/11/05/a-foretaste-of-my-review-of-campbell%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdeliverance-of-god%e2%80%9d-2/comment-page-1/#comment-857 elias tannous Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:10:48 +0000 http://www.michaeljgorman.net/?p=666#comment-857 hi Dr.Gorman, The non-violence of paul is a very important matter especially now. I live in israel (I`m an arab christian) and this last week a man was caught for trying to kill people of the political left, gays and messianic jews. In one of the writings he left in one of the places he tried to attack people he incouraged others: "be like pinhas". In a land where so many acts of violence are done in the name of God we need to be convinced again and again that Jesus and Paul insisted on non-violence. thanx for these fortastes. elias hi Dr.Gorman,

The non-violence of paul is a very important matter especially now. I live in israel (I`m an arab christian) and this last week a man was caught for trying to kill people of the political left, gays and messianic jews. In one of the writings he left in one of the places he tried to attack people he incouraged others: “be like pinhas”. In a land where so many acts of violence are done in the name of God we need to be convinced again and again that Jesus and Paul insisted on non-violence. thanx for these fortastes.
elias

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